Sunday 25 December 2011

‘Understanding the history of the Bodos’



    Introduction:
    Understanding the history of ancient Assam has been a difficult task for the historians as well as the conscious masses since long. It has been so for there is dearth of historical remnants or monument of the past Kingdoms or the civilization. Sir Edward Gait remarked that ‘the science of history was unknown to the early inhabitants of Assam, and it is not till the Ahom invasion in 1228A.D. that we obtain anything at all approaching a connected account of the people and their rulers. For several hundred years previously some scatter fact may be gleaned from a few ancient inscriptions and from the observations of a Chinese traveler. Before then nothing definite is known, and our only information consist of some dubious and fragmentary references in the Mahabharat, and in the Purans and Tantras and other similar records.’[1] This paper will make an attempt to understand the history of the Great Bodos with the help of the toponamy of the entire north and north east India for it will help us to reduce some of the controversies   regarding the original inhabitants of the entire region. Here the term ‘Bodo’ will be used to meant all Bodo groups of people like Bodos (Boros), Rabhas, Dimasa, Garos, Lalungs and Tripuris who were once upon a time known as Kiratas, Mlecchhas, Danavas and Asura and ruled the entire north and north east India for many centuries.
    History says that the Bodos, known as Kiratas, Asuras, Danavas and Mlecchhas in the ancient period of time, were the earliest inhabitants of the Northeastern region of India. However, it has been challenged by many scholars who believed that the Austric were the earliest inhabitants of the region. This paper makes an attempt to argue in favour of the former i.e. the Bodos were the earliest inhabitants of the region. Here some of the nomenclatures of the place and rivers in ancient India (i.e. its North and Northeastern Part) are explained for our understanding.
1.     Barak Valley/ River: This Valley/River exists in the southern part of present state of Assam which was a part of the ancient Kamrup Kingdom. The Kachari Kingdom came to an end in the year 1854 in this Valley.  If we analyse the term ‘Barak’ it can be assumed that the term has been derived from the word ‘Bara’ or ‘Boro’, the original inhabitants of the region. In Kok Borok, another group of the great Bodos the word ‘Barak’ means man. Perhaps because of the manly attitude of the river it was named as or became popular as Barak (Man) in the region.
2.     Dinajpur (West Bengal): Dinaspur exists in the present West Bengal. Once upon a time the region was under the Kingdom of Mahipal-i, descendent of Asura dynasty. The term ‘Dinajpur’ can be explained as Di+na+pur i.e. Di= River or Water; Na=fish; and pur=Land or Place. Thus the complete meaning is Land of fish cultivation or abode of fishes. The land is identified as Matsyadesha (i.e. land of fishes or fishermen) of the epic era.[2]
3.     Bodorpur (Barak Valley): Badarpur exists in the Barak Valley of Assam. This land was a part of Cachar Kingdom. But as a result of the Badarpur agreement 1824(between Kachari king Gabinda Chandra and the British East India Company), the land was transfer to the control of the British East India Company. The name of the place can be explained as Bodo= Bodo and pur=place or land. Thus the complete meaning is the land of the Bodos.
4.     Dimapur (Nagaland):  Dimapur exists in the present Nagaland. Once upon a time it was the Capital of the Kacharis (i.e. the Bodos). They ruled there up to 1536 and then sifted their capital to Maibong or Maibang. The term can be explained in Bodo as: Di= river; ma= big; and pur= place. The complete meaning is, Place of a big river. To be true, this place exists near the river Brahmaputra, the longest river of Assam. The Dimasas, a section of the great Bodos are known as the son of this big river. (i.e. Di= water; ma=big and sa=son).
5.     Dipu: (Karbi Anglong): This place exists in the Karbi Anglong district of Assam. The term without any doubt is of Bodo origin. In Bodo, the term Dipu means flowing river with much current (i.e. Di= river; pu= flowing with much current).
6.     Haflong: Haflong is a town and headquarters of North Cachar Hills district of Assam. It was part of Kachari Kingdom of Maibang. The term Haflong perhaps derived from the Bodo word ‘Hafulung’ which means fertile land.
7.    Habung: The earliest reference to Habung comes in the 10th century copper plate grant of Ratnapala of the Pala dynasty, when it was a principality of the Kamarupa Kingdom. After the downfall of the Kamarupa Kingdom it became a dependency of the Chutiya kingdom. The region was finally annexed by the Ahom king Suhungmung in 1512.[3] In Bodo ‘Ha’ means land and ‘bung’ means filled.
8.    Dikrang:  Dikrang is the name of a river which was the eastern boundary of ancient Kamrupa dynasty[4]. The western boundary of the kingdom was Karatoya River, which exists in the Jolpaiguri district of present North Bengal. In Bodo language, ‘Di’ means river and ‘krang’ means strong or current i.e. strong or Current River.
9.   Kamakya:   Another controversial name in the history of ancient Assam is the term Kamakhya. It was a temple in the river Brahmaputra (Brahmaputra is the corruption word of the term Burlungbutur) in Assam which still exist.  Dr. Banikanta Kakati says that the term is of Austric origin. However, his analysis of the term is not found so much convincing to us as it lacks sound evidence. Dr. Binoy Kumar Brahma says that the term is of Bodo origin. He said, “The term ‘Bodo’ is a compound word and may simplify in Bodo with their Bodo meaning as: Kham or kam= to burn; ai= mother goddess; kha= structuring. Complete meaning reads as, mother goddess, being structured out of burned ashes.  Siva and Parvati (Sati) are regarded as Kirata god and goddesses. Siva Purana says that to escape from the injury of insult done against her husband Siva by her father Dakhsva, sati jumped into the burning fire of yajna and died.”[5]
10. Kamrupa:  This name of the place is found mentioned in the Uttarbarbil Plate of Balavarmana iii.[6] Regarding the origin of the term Dr. Banikanta Kakati associates with the Puranic legend Kamdeva, the god of love. Kamdeva regained his form (rupa) in this locality after having been burn to ashes by lord Siva. [7] But he could not find out the root of word ‘Kamru’ in Santali language to which he thought of having relation.  It was said that Kamdeva, the God of love was burn to ashes by Lord Siva in anger while the former was trying to break the meditation of the latter. Though he was burned to ashes he was restructured. The term Kamrupa may be of Bodo origin. In Bodo, the term may be explained as:   Kham or Kam= to burn; ru or rubu= dust or ashes[8]. Complete meaning is, restructured after completely burned into ashes. Thus the term Kamakhya and Kamrupa may be the Sanskritised form of the Bodo word Kamaikha and Kamru. Kamrupa is also known as Pragjyatisa or Pragjyatispura, perhaps the corruption of the Bodo word Purgajwngtipur meaning land of cleanliness and light.
11.   Laoti/ Dilao:  The river Brahmaputra was earlier known as Dilao or Laoti[9]. In Bodo, the term Dilao or Laoti means long river i.e. Di or Ti= river and Lao= long. The complete meaning is the long river. The Brahmaputra River is the longest river in Assam. Banikanta Kakati stated that in Ahom Buranji also the river Brahmaputra is very frequently referred to as Tilao.[10]  In many of the instances like in the manuscript 36 f. No. 4(a), Department of Historical and Antiquarian studies, Guahati, Assam, the river is also referred to as Luit or Louhita.[11]
12.  Kashpur: Kashpur is the last kingdom of the Bodos in Assam. It lasted upto 1854. King Gabinda Chandra, the last king of the Bodos in Assam died in the year 1830. However, after the death of the king some portion of the kingdom was ruled by Tularam senapati and his two sons up to 1854. This place exists in the Cachar district of Assam.
13.  Maibang: The Kacharis shifted their kingdom from Dimapur to Maibang after the defeat and death of Detsung in the hands of the Ahoms in the year 1536.[12]  This land exists in the North Cachar Hills of present Assam. In Bodo, the term ‘Maibang’ means ‘much Paddy’ (i.e. Mai=Paddy; Bang=Much).
14.    Dispur:  Dispur is the capital of present state of Assam. For many decades the Bodos were living in this region. This area was created as   South Kamrup Tribal Belt (Gauhati) by Govt. order RD/74/46/172 dated 27/02/50 which comprised 7,72,454 B-0K-0L of land area. However, 1,229,202B- 0K-0L of land were deconstituted under Govt. order No RSD/26/64/PI/38 dated 30/07/69 from the total land area for construction of the State’s Capital complex.[13] In Bodo language, Dispur means land of river i.e. Di= River; Pur= land or Place. 
15.   Mairang: Mairang is a name of the place near Guahati city (Six Miles). The land came to be known as Mairang because once upon a time a Bodo king named Mairang Raja (later Sanskritised as Mahiranga Danava) better known as Danava was ruling the entire region.
16.   Dhansiri Dima: This River exists in the present Dimapur. Here the word Dima means big river (e.g. Dimapur=Land of Big River).
17.   Lamding (Nagaon, Assam):  This is a place in the Nagaon district of Assam. When we analyse the term it seems that it is a Bodo word. In Bodo Lamding means a road where it changes the direction i.e. lama= road; ding=changed direction.
    Above discussion makes it clear that the Bodo word ‘Di’ or ‘Dwi’ or ‘Doi’ or ‘Ti’ which stance for water forms the first syllable of the most of the river names of ancient Assam. It also became clear that the term ‘pur’ which stance for land or place are found in many places of the region. This seems that the Bodos had a long historical relationship with rivers and the lands of the entire region. Here a list of few more rivers of north east India is given below.
Ø Dihong: Wide River.
Ø Dichang: River with much water.
Ø Dikrong: (Arunachal and Assam) River with high edges lying waterbed too below.
Ø Dibrugarh: (Dibrugarh, Assam) River with shallow water.
Ø Dikhou: River with much sound.
Ø Tista: In Bodo ‘Tisa’ means small water. It flows from Sikkim through Darjeeling district of Bengal.
Ø Tihu: (Bhaksa district of Assam) River with much water.
Ø Mongoldoi: It exists in Darang (Dirang) district of Assam (Present Odalguri district of Bodoland Territorial Council).
Ø Barnadi: (Barnaidi) River like mad i.e. River with much water and current.
Ø Dirang (Darang): River of Joy (In Bodo ‘rang’ means joy e.g. Rangjali Bwisagu).
Ø Dibang (Arunachal Pradesh): River with much storage of water.
Ø Gomoti: (Lucknow, UP and South Tripura) Yellow River ( In Bodo language, ‘Gomo’ means yellow whereas ‘ti’ means river).
Ø Sadiya: (Eastern Assam) River with Shallow water. Eastern Boundary of proposed Bodoland demand.
Ø Dihing:  This name is found in manuscript 36 f. No. 4(a).[14]

In the northern part of India we find the following rivers:
Ø Swarasvati: Swarasvati may be a sanskritised form of Sraisraiti(Bodo) which  means river with shallow water.
Ø Sindhu (Sindi): Sindhu may be a sanskritised form of ‘Sindi’. In Bodo language, ‘Sindi’ means Chinese river or river from china. Bodos used to say China as Sin.
Ø Iravati:
Ø Paravati:
Ø Bhagirati:
Ø Ganga:
    Most of the above mentioned rivers except Ganga end with the word ti or di which is a Bodo word for water. Ganga in Bodo means the end of thirst i.e. the Ganga is a river which ends our thirst.
   ‘It is indeed not at all unlikely that the people known to us as Kacharis and to themselves as Bada (Bara), were in earliest days the dominant race in Assam; and as such they would seem to have left traces of this domination in the nomenclature of some of the physical features of the country. e.g., the Kachari word for water (di;doi) apparently forms the first syllable of the names of many of the chief rivers of the province, such as Diputa, Dihong, Dibong, Dibru, Dihing, Dimu, Desang, Diku (cf. Khu Tista), &c., and to these may be added Dikrang, Diphu, Digaru, &c., all near Sadiya, the earliest known centre of Chutiya (Kachari) power and civilization’.[15]
    The Ahoms ruled Assam for about 600 years (i.e. from 1228 to 1826), yet their word for water i.e. Nam has found in very few numbers of places or river names. But, we find many river names in India, particularly in North and Northeast India which begins or ends with di or ti, the Bodo word for water.[16] From this, cannot we assume that the Bodos ruled Assam much longer than that of the Ahoms?
       Let us conclude with a famous remark made by SK Chatterji which goes like this, ‘..their area of occupation extended to Cachar district (particularly in the North Cachar Hills) and into Sylhet, and from Cachar and Sylhet they moved further to south, to Tripura state where there is still a Bodo-speaking bloc in the shape of the Tipra tribe which founded the state; and from Tripura they spread into Comilla and possibly also Naokali district : and thus they occupied the mouths of Ganges by the eastern sea. With the exception of the isolated Khasi and Jaintia Hills, the whole of Assam (barring the eastern parts inhabited by the Nagas and the south eastern parts inhabited by the Kuki-chins) and North and East Bengal was the country of the great Bodo people’.[17]


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End Notes:


[1]  Edwar Gaid, ‘A History of Assam’, LBS Publications, Guahati  (Assam), 2005 (Reprint), p-1.
[2]  Binoy Kumar Brahma, “Social Mobility: From Tribalism to Indianism: The Bodos”, Onsumoi Printers and Publishers,2008, p-200.
[3]  Amalendu  Guha, Pre-Ahom Roots and the Medieval State in Assam: A Reply, Social Scientist Vol 12, No. 6, 1984, p73. & The Manuscript 36 f. No. 4(a), Department of Historical and Antiquarian studies, Guahati, Assam.
[4]  Banikanta Kakati, ‘The Mother Goddess Kamakhya’, Publication Board of Assam, Guahati, 2003, p-7.
[5]  Binoy Kumar Brahma, op.cit, P-15.
[6] Sarat Kumar Phukan, op. cit., Photo Plate no-1.
[7]  Binoy Kumar Brahma, op. cit, p-14.
[8]   Ibid, p-16.
[9]  Sarat Kumar Phukan, op. cit., p-159.
[10]  Binoy Kumar Brahma, op. cit., pp-16-17.
[11]  Sarat Kumar Phukan, op. cit., photo plate no ix.
[12]  Sir Edward Gait, op. cit. p-238.
[13]  Binoy Kumar Brahma, op.cit.p-265.
[14]  Sarat Kumar Phukan, “Toponymy of Assam”, Omson Publications, New Delhi-110002, 2001, Photo Plate no-1.
[15]  S. Endle, “The Kacharis”, Low Price Publications, Delhi-110052, 1997 (Reprint), p-4.
[16]  Edward Gait, op. cit. p-6.
[17] SK Chatterjee, Kirata Jana Kriti’, The Asiatic Society, Kolkata, 2007(Reprint) p-46.

181 comments:

  1. Mr. Kalidash Brahma,

    The material presented by you is very well done and I look forward in the future to read more articles regarding Bodo history, because we have lost our origin we need to revive it. Our culture, our tradition and where we belong is rich and we forget where we come from, my pride comes from the land I belong.

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  2. Jwi boro harini, long live the great bodos.

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  3. Thank you so much for the information.
    It's a great help for Bodos to understand the historical facts in a better way.
    Jwi Boro harini jwi !!

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  4. Thank you Turginev, Okapwr and Pinky

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  6. i would like to make a correction here, Haflong and Maibang which is situated in Dima Hasao districts didnot get its name from bodo, It Haflong derived from Haflao or Hangklong meaning "ant hill" in Dimasa language and on similar fashion Maibang is derived from Dimasa word Mai(paddy) and Bang (abundant) altogther it mean land of abundant paddy. Diphu from Di (water) and Phu (white or alkaline) in dimasa language . it had to be clear that "Di" is used by Dimasas for water, Dwi or Doi by Boros, twi or ti by tiprasa and chi by garos.
    it would be preferable to use "kachari" instead of Bodo, many would confused Bodo with the only boros of bodoland region.

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  7. Dear Nunisa,
    I am happy that you made a comment on it. Historically, Bodos and Dimasas are of same origin. They are of same language group. They bear affinities in many aspects. History says it. Till today, they maintain a close relationship. You know that the first president and secretary of Bodo Sahitya Sobha were of Dimasa community. There is nothing wrong. Rather we have to feel proud of it. This vindicates our historical truth. Both the term Bodos and Kacharis were used to meant people of Boro group of language. Therefore, I donot feel any wrong in using the term Bodos.

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  8. Bodos and Dimasas have same origin racially yet they are two different communities. for example just as Chinese and japanese or korean may belong to same race but they are cultural distinct .
    History also marks the sepration between boros and Dimasas.reference can be made or seen through our own oral history to geographical location to ahom buranjee chronicles.
    oral history of both bodos and Dimasa marks separtion while crossing the river secondly because of this 'crossing river' tales bear some truth we find bodos in brahmaputra plains and Dimasas in below brahmputra . thirdly Ahom buranjee while confronting with kacharies have clearly mention that ruler were Timisa (a corrupt word of Dimasa) and dimapur as "Che Dima"-city of Dimasas.
    relics, inscription and coins of kachari which i would like to share later on.. bear the clan of kings and queen as hasnusa or hachengsa or hastungsa. this clearly hints that Dimasa merged as separate identity which need to be focused on and instead of clubbing Dimasa as boro. it would further create confusion that Dimasa is same boros like bodoland that wear dokhona or worshop bathou or celebrate bwisagu which is not actually true.

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  9. Dear Nunisa,

    It's good that we are discussing on the issue. History depends on the way we look at. It depends on how we want to see it. It's your opinion that you want to see Dimasa as separate identity. I have no disrespect for it. But I do have some different outlook. I want to see it both from broad and narrow perspective. In this article I have used the broad sense. I used the term to meant those groups of people like Boros, Rabhas, Dimasas, Debbarmas etc. (see in introductory part of the article) which was used many scholars. In doing so, it was expected that it will help us in digging out the missing aspects of our common history.

    I hope it is desirable to understand. You are telling about oral history of separation. But it also true that we have written history of being together for centuries. you are telling about separate identity, I am telling about unity. Both are important. We should be together with distinct Identities. The spirit of this article does not hurt this realities.

    Thank You.

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  10. Mr.Brahma, i am here not speak about or to fostered separatist theory. I am aware by the fact of common origin of Kachari people. But today kachari people is not uniform homegenious group it diveresed by their own distinct culture- say bodos have bathouism or dokhona which Dimasas donot posses as their own distinct beliefs and culture.
    as separation and new identity took place in past itself that is why today we are boro or Dimasa or sonowal and so on. knowing the history or idea of separation doesnot hinders the unity as you belief so but infact it will broaden our knowledge about why different identities today and it will further strengthen the unity amongst kacharies atleast by the fact of point of common origin.
    And lastly i dont like the idea of terming this entire group as "bodo"- which would submereged all the distinct identities of each kachari tribes into Bodo people who resides only in Btc areas and central Assam. many people would start believing that rest of kacharies -Rabhas or Dimasa or sonowal are subgroup of the bodos of btc area and central Assam which is not true! such thing showcases boros as progenitors or parent of kachari and would led further division and tension amongst kachari people itself!
    If water is "Di" in Dimasa, let "Di" be undertagline of Dimasas itself
    similarly Twi for tiprasas or chi for garos or dwi/doi for boros.
    what belong each individual kachari group need not be put under bodo tagline.
    that is what i want to convey
    thank you.

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  11. Dear Nunisa,
    I am happy that you are interested in history. This is good for society like ours. Unfortunately we are having different outlooks. I don't believe in reunion or merger of Dimasas, Rabhas, Tripuris with Boros. But I believe in their unity. I believe in their common history. This is what I wanted to share.
    Thanks.

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  12. Bodos like the dimasas or mech is just one clan of the kacharis so it would definitely not be justified to term the entire kachari clan as bodos.It would be misleading the youths into believing what is being said.Nothing can change history and it should be mentioned distinctively when it comes to such a sensitive issue.

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    1. i agree but in some cases if u see kachari word is made of two word which is koch hari( group of people) ....as all surname of boro people have such word .kangkla hari kangklari , dwima hari dwimary , narji hari narzary etc.. bodo word were never bodo its boro only soem stupid mad it bodo.. example boro kachari temple in west bengal .. which is more than 500 year old and when britisher mentioned all of us as bodo which is just a mistake of boro word... barak mistake of borok which if see in way of bengali language it will be ....of boro.. or its of boro.. where jamatia, dev barma , reang people collectively known as boro...... and some people say mech are different wher boro people use mech surname .. kalicharan bramhma who's father were using mech surname and he spreaded brahma dharma among us and those boro who lived in assam they changed their surname mech to brahma( indo aryan word)...

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  13. Bodos like the dimasas or mech is just one clan of the kacharis so it would definitely not be justified to term the entire kachari clan as bodos.It would be misleading the youths into believing what is being said.Nothing can change history and it should be mentioned distinctively when it comes to such a sensitive issue.

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  14. Dear ilu Ihou,
    I don't know whether you read the introduction of the paper. Paper does not try to club all communities under one umbrella. Rather, it tries to explore the common history.

    I made it clear in the paper as well as in my conversations with Mr Nunisa. Thank you.

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  15. oh sorry i could not continue the conversation for a while was busy with class. Yes i am interested in History, because i am M.A. History student in Delhi university.
    its not been clear to me as well, now you yourself can see how that term can create confusion for others if you see commentaries made here in blog.
    As i already said before terming entire group as Bodo will create confusion and all the credit will go to the bodo or boro tribe of BTC or central Assam.
    we Dimasas are never a 'bodo' as you mention on the section of 'Dimapur'as 'Dimasas a section of bodo' as this term bodo or bodosa is just one clan in our society not entire Dimasa cannot be bodo.Therefore Dimasas never accept as Bodos.
    the Word 'Kachari ' is appropriate to denote these group as it doesnot point or favor towards any community or if we talk about linguistic group "tibeto burman speaking group" will also be appropriate one.
    And many places you have mentioned it as bodo origin you need sources evidences for it, we cannot write just out of the blue.
    for eg.Ganga which you claimed got its word from bodo woh sorry i could not continue the conversation for a while. Yes i am interested in History, because i am M.A. Histoy student in Delhi university.
    its not been clear to me as well, now you yourself can how that term can create confusion whih others here made commentaried here in blog.
    As i already said before terming entire group as Bodo will create confusion and all the credit will go to the bodo or boro tribe of BTC or central Assam.
    we Dimasas are never a 'bodo' as you mention on the section of 'Dimapur'as 'Dimasas a section of bodo' as this term bodo or bodosa is just one clan in our society not entire Dimasa cannot be bodo.Therefore Dimasas never accept as Bodos.
    the Word 'Kachari ' is appropriate to denote these group as it doesnot point or favor towards any community.
    And many places you have mentioned it as bodo origin you need sources evidences for it, we cannot write just out of the blue.
    for eg.Ganga which claimed got its word from bodo word for thrist, can be disputed..as many other scholars believes it got its name from Hwangha / yellow river civilazation of china and also
    claiming sindhu or saraswati or gomoti is baseless , as they also have their origin in puranic vedic text. to present them as bodo origin you need much sources and evidence back for it.
    Thank you

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    1. ning elai rebba k nuhi ang hamsi ning hamjao laka.

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  16. Dear Nunisa,
    I am happy to know you are still studying. However, I felt you need to know more about history of coining the term Bodo.The term Bodo as a generic name was, for the first time, used by Hodgson in 1846 while he was writing about the Meches of Darjeeling District. I hope you know that. Logic behind the use of the term was not being explained by him as well. Scholars believe that it may be due to their connection with a place called "Bod" exist in western part of China and eastern part of Tibet. As you have said that you are not in favour of using the term Bodos to include all Bodo Group of people. Of course, you have every reason to believe in what you believe. As regard the use of source, I have given few references. I don't believe in using too many references. As regard the claiming of many rivers of Bodo origin I argued. At the beginning many histories are written with arguments. Then it becomes sources. Thank you and best wishes for your studies.

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  18. ofcourse i have heard about hodgson, coining the 'Bodo' and the trend was followed by S.endle and E.gait as well! but today so many scholars in Assam has corrected their work like Sk Barpujari and BN bardoloi. In short what i meant is there are flaws too, seeing history do need refernces, for eg. till the 1920s Aurangzeb has known as orthodox fundamentalist Islam! by classical historian like jadunath sarkar, many others but with a time economic historian like irfan habib, satish chandra view is much accepted , depicting Aurangzab as victim of economic crisis that made him orthodox.
    so we should not limit ourselves to one particular view.

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  19. Sorry to interrupt, both parties. Be Indian and proud to be Indian. guys be broad minded. Just be glad and proud to be part of great Mongoloid race.

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  20. Arguing for such topics donot give you bread. Be realistic focus on future and work for the development of the race. People will know you automatically. You do not have to justify your existence. I tell you what folks make achievements in all fields and world will know you someday. Now to be realistic nobody gives you a damn like you are boro or dimasa or karbi. If you go out of state people just call you Nepali or tribal who fights always within themselves for blood. People just criticise you saying you Chinese face.. You luk good in restaurants. People just say the day Chinese luking people starts acting actors people will stop watching movies. So stop arguing for stupid topics, prove your worthy or hide in the trash

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  21. Arguing for such topics donot give you bread. Be realistic focus on future and work for the development of the race. People will know you automatically. You do not have to justify your existence. I tell you what folks make achievements in all fields and world will know you someday. Now to be realistic nobody gives you a damn like you are boro or dimasa or karbi. If you go out of state people just call you Nepali or tribal who fights always within themselves for blood. People just criticise you saying you Chinese face.. You luk good in restaurants. People just say the day Chinese luking people starts acting actors people will stop watching movies. So stop arguing for stupid topics, prove your worthy or hide in the trash

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  22. Dimasas, koch, sonowal, rabha, tiwas r not boro sir kalidash brahma. It's true all of them have common history but they have developed their separate identities which u can't claim it 2 b ur own. Khamptis, phakials, aitonias r ethnically related 2 ahoms because we r tais but can't claim them to be ahoms. So dimasa, koch, ra related to bodos but they r not bodos but belong to the umbrella kachari

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    1. that is what i am trying convey in this entire discourse.

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    2. I did not say they are Boros. I said they belong to Bodo group of people which was claimed by Grierson in Linguistic Survey of India.

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  23. What is the distinction between bodo and boro kalidas sir??

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    1. Please read Linguistic Survey of India, 1928.

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    2. no survey required when britisher mentioned kachari people they mentioned as boro mistakenly bodo .. in 1846 ..just for that so many people say boro word doesn't exist ... let me tell there is a temple named as boro kachari it is more than 500 years old...

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  24. Whoever has witten this article.. I want too meet him personally

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  25. Its all fake u've copied dimasa history

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  26. Whoever wants to talk or meet me contact me at 07086670293.

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  29. and the SONOWAL KACHARI are Third largest Northeastern Tribes of Assam .

    The BODO s are recognised as a 'Plains Tribe' in the sixth scheduled of the Indian Constitution . They are also known as "SONOWAL KACHARI" in upper Assam in western part of the state they are familiar as the Bodo or Bodo-kachari ......

    They are predominantly inhabitants of the Dhemaji Lakhimpur, Tinsukia and Dibrugrah district of Assam . They are also scattered in the district of Golaghat,Jorhat,Sibsagor and in Nagaland and Arunachal Pradesh in Northeast India also .

    According to our Boro Kachari Brothers.....
    According to many historians Sonowal-Kacharis were once the gold washers during the reign of ahom kings.. It has become far difficult to know about the exact origin of the word "Sonowals" ,however no body can deny that they were the Children of Bodos its because Sonowal- kacharis r the followers of "Bathouism", or they refer it as BAITHW....... Worship of BAITHW is mainly performed by offerings of animals, the supreme deity of this religion is "Khring barai" or "Siva" or "Sibarai",.. This shows that Sonowals are strictly animist... Siva is not a hindu god,but he is the father of tribals,so worship of Siva signifies that Sonowals were non-hindus which justifies them to be the part of great Bodo-Kiratas.. The word Bohuwa might have came from the Bodo word "Bihuw" Bi + huw or Binai + huwaney (hwnai) giving love and taking love, .. Bohuwa is danced to praise Khring Raja.. The master god of Sonowal-Kacharis.. However
    Sonowals have more or less lost their language,but they originally spoke the same Bodo language in ancient times.. The Sonowals might be the offsprings of "Banasura", the Bathow priest.. They might have been ruling the entire Sonitphur area once upon a time,but owing to aryan and brahminism many of them were converted to hinduism.. The Sonowals thus,got separated from the Great Bodo-kiratas... Based on religion if we speak then there is no doubt that All Sonowals are none other then the Great Bodo-Kirats who fought in Mahabharata.. Unite with your ancestors(Bodos) to get back ur old language and traditions,.. Speaking assamese language does not make them Assamese but they are pure Bodo-Kirata by blood .

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    1. this is the spirit man. meches from bengal and nepal also follows bathw/shibrai. but we too belong to bodo kachari group.
      we speak bodo language.

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    2. That's what I wrote here.i think either I have failed to explain or they cannot accept.

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  30. Lumding is not you called it Lamding. Tha fact is that one Karbi Chief Lumding Terang stablished a village after his name in eighteenth century. From there on Lumding came ito eist till today. Secondly Dhansiri former name was Donsuri. It is a Karbi Word 'Donsuri' means thousand house. This was the village of Hang Rongphar and he famous Krbi heroin Rongpharpi Rongbe,in the eleventh century. That tim Karbi had thousand houses in thisvery village. It was Karbi historic place. Later govt. official name it Dhansuri in place of Donsuri.

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    1. bro can u please visit the areas & see now presently there are many bengalis because of immigrants but u will still find the Dimasa villages & near lumding you will find one more town its langting,its a dimasa majority town, bro u cant just add your opinion if that town was established by lumding terang then why there are no karbis instead only bengalis, muslim & dimasa & see the map from lumding you get a direct route to Dillai, Diphu it is also Dimasa name, now as Diphu is the capital of karbianglong dnt say that its a karbi origin land, it came under that territory because of British, even the hojai under Nagaon district its dimasa habitant you will find Dimasa Rajbari there & the Dhansari just go there its the oldest Dimasa Habitant in Dimapur district, bro karbi & Dimasa people are fighting for our right from central & state Assam govt, we are together but dont mislead the history

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  31. Boros do not have history but we do.Do not write rubbish it seems you copy paste the story of Dimasa. Please, do not write this type of which lead to communal clash.

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  32. Boros do not have history but we do.Do not write rubbish it seems you copy paste the story of Dimasa. Please, do not write this type of which lead to communal clash.

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    1. Brain washed by Ahom Conspiracy .

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    2. Your history begins after destruction of Dimapur . Dimapur was ruled by Bodosa clan . That Bodosa clan was part of Both Boro and Dimasa.

      Although we don't have time to waste on history. You can claim kachari history as dimasa history we have no objection. Just do it officially , Otherwise people will be confused forever.

      Boro history is Barman , Mlecha , Pala , Khen and Koch dynasty. But today, Koch are distinct tribe although it was open caste to convert from all tribes in assam.

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    3. oh so u admit that thats our Dimasa Kachari history & the capital of hojai maibang & kashpur was our Rajbari, if u wnt prove then the last king of Dimasa kachari was Govinchandra hasnu & you will find hasnu title in Dimasa people
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      u say our history starts from dimapur then tell your history before Dimapur?
      your any capital after Dimapur???

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  33. well frnds. why fight among ourselves. u either accept or not but history says all these groups belong to bodo kachari. i met few dimasa people at chennai airport. seeing them, i introduced myself as bodo. they wewre happy to tell me that they also belong to same but are called dimasa. i also told them that we are actually called mech in nepal and bengal. but we speak bodo language. later on i found that they also speak same language. so we tried our best to speak in our(bodo/dimasa whatever u call it) language.

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    1. bro if u see someone own in foreign land u will be happy right & also Dimasa & bodo language are similar.
      ok here is my pointthis & get clarified before 13th century we were all kacharis together & the vast Brahmaputra valley was ruled from the capital Dimapur but when the Ahom started to rise in power they wanted to capture kachari land but failed many time but once the Ahoms attacked at night riding cows while the kachari were celebrating festival, they attacked the villages & the capital was not ready but foughtback & safed the royal blood they cross Dhansiri river from South & move to Diphu Dillai route to NCH presently DimaHasao district while Dimapur kingdom was anexed & were forced to pay tribute to Ahom kingdom establishing their puppet king but majority left the kingdom with the royal while remaining ones were used for labour the max habitant of upper kingdom move to west securing themselves & with time they called bodos while the one came under states like west bengal they called mech but the habitant of the south move farther down to tripura, in time the kacharis establishing themselves in different region got evolved a bit the kachari calling themselves Dimasa established a capital in Maibang & was gaining power building fort statues but after many years suddenly Ahom raded the capital & destroyed everything build by them, the Ahoms was pushed back but the fear remain & so the kashpur was established the last capital of Dimasa kachari the hojai rajbari was also destroyed but the dimasa kachari people lived near the ruin kingdom area in the forest, in kashpur the capital was booming & aslo the kachari people who moved down interacted with Dimasa kachari the same kachari group who got seperated in caos after 400-500 years the kokborok kacharis(triprasa) & the Dimasa Kachari got interacted & the tripuri people had also successfully established their kingdom but due to loss of interaction between past many years their language got a bit difference because each group evolved in its own way whereas the sonowal kachariwere unfortunate enough to be used in gold mining by Ahoms & they got name sonowal by time but also the bodos were fortunate enough to live more peaceful life in the north to migrate till present day Nepal& safe their language ,culture & also took growth in population they didn't established any kingdom because the raja clan & mostly all senapati went towards south in time many bodos kachari migrated to southt find the royal blood but end up establishing in the region thts how you will find bodos kachari villages in present day East karbianglong & Dimapur area but as it took years the same family got divided & quarrel presently in the name of kacharis, history should be Clearified kachari are the indo Tibetan group came from the route of Nepal & established in brahmaputra valley (( DILAO)) RIVER but the fate made it to the present just dont quareel with the name the bodo people can say all kachari were bodos but now cause the time made all kachari tribe unique used a common & unity word KACHARI so as to be united

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    2. see eg to Nagaland being kachari the same origin we struggle to be United but the naga tribe which they are so proud of they are not from same origin under Naga their are 21 tribe Aaov, Angami, Zeme,Headhunter etc but they use a name Naga to unite themselves & form a bond all the tribe under Naga are from different orgin like zeme & angami are not same even 1% their language dnt match as our kachari tribe, but they are United calling themselves Naga, so to give respect to our forefathers we must take back our kachari kingdom & under it districts representing each kachari tribe , the Dimasa kachari is the tribe which had fought many great wars & didnot lose their history & made great architectures to were they established so to the people saying its bodo ruin it would hurt the sentiment of the people you could say its a great kachari kingdom ruin or Dimasa kachari ruin because after the seperation with other kachari brothers the Dimasa fought to protect their name as it can be seen that the king of kachari kingdom even gave the name Dimapur to the mighty capital ,
      *"DIMASA the sons of great river"

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    3. i wish our leaders would take up the step to turn the history in books so that the upcoming generation can feel proud as many would not know during the time in Kashpur kingdom the mughals attacked from sylhet area with more then 60000 soldires but the Dimasa kachari stop them but gone through many looses, as the mughal got defeated they were angry & attacked the kingdom again for 2nd time to conquer farther to manipur & Burma but it was stopped, the Mughal attacked last for the 3rd time & it got under the Dimasa kingdom but was defeated again, the mughal emperor from delhi told general to change the route & the mughal attacked the Brahmaputra plan & captured Ahoms the Kachari went through harsh time for many 100 years & became strong, but it also led to major great population loss their are many untold history unknown by many its a history i found in a page, i feel proud of my Dimasa kachari people

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  34. Sir Kalidash brahma lemme clarify some points.
    Habung is not Bodo origin it has tai ahom origin.
    Ha 'five' n Bung 'capital'. This place was chosen as the fifth place for settlement for the tai ahoms in plains and as capital by Chaopha Chaolung Siukapha after mungklang(Abhaypur), Namrup, Tipam and Songtak n at last in Cheraidoi which later on became capital. N The term luit is originated frm ahom word Nam-ti-lao(Nam 'water', Ti 'place' lao'Tai people'). Means a river valley inhabited by Tai people.

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    1. LMAO!! Stop with your fake propaganda everywhere. Habung and Kubung were two settlements in Upper Assam inhabitated by Brahmins. Habung stands for land-fill because it was near the Brahmaputra and hence was prone to erosion and sedimentation. Ha means land in Bodo/Dimasa/Deori langauge as in Halali which means glowing land.

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    2. Haha..Luit has noting to do with Namti. It originated from Lohit which is a Prakrit word.

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    3. Haha . Invader who came in 13 century through cheating and stealing try to teach us history.

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    4. Mr. Diganta whom u r calling thief. Ulta chor kotpal ko date. Who claim koch or dimasa history. We or u. We tai ahoms dont claim other history to be ours. We tai ahoms are the ones who introduced authenticated history writing system in assam, when u bodos were naked and head hunting barbarians in north bengal. And our ahom buranji dont mentioned any bodo or kachari kingdom but it says timisa which means dimasa. Kachari term is a sylheti bengali word which had its roots in cachar which means a valley bounded by hills and sylheti bengali calls inhabitants of barak valley as kachari they call meiteis as moglai kachari ahoms as ahomia kachari etc. assam to be ruled by khunchai(koch) and khen dynasty. U barbarians r historyless nomads of north bengal and bhutan. Ur grandpa ali mech helped bakhtiyar khilji to invade kamrupa and bakhtiyar khiljis historian minhaj already spoken territories east of begamati(rangamati in dhubri) lies mech, koch and tharu country so u bodos, mech, kachari or whatever u r u never belonged to assam. N all ahoms never came with chaopha chaolung suokapha. Many Ahoms already existed in upper assam. Im giving below references

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    5. Xuan zang has spoken the territories towards east of kamrupa belong to maan and lao barbarians. And han chinese call us maan and lao. Samlongpha under sukhanpha of mongmaolung in yunnan invaded whole northeast india, myanmar, thailand, cambodia, laos and vietnam in 710 ad and annex them to made them part of mongmaolung empire our chutiya(another shan tribe, proven by even meiteis cheitharol kumbaba speaks about samlongphas conquest and he subdues naothingkong who also became his best friend
      . And from 710. Ad to 1228 ad. Assam was part of mongmao. In 2nd december 1228 assam became independent of mongmao and got its separate identity. Read ney alias history of shan states, william robinsons a descriptive account of assam, w. W hunters A statistical account of assam and padmeswar gogois tai and the tai kingdoms

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    6. u should also claim alexander the great or genghis khan to be bodos even in our hindu sanskrit literature they were called mleccha.

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    7. mr wanderer guy im not writting any mindborn stories like u and ur historyless people. all these r written evidences from our buranjis. have u ever touched a buranji not secondary versions of any christian evangelist but real sanchi book. sorry u people never use to know how to read n write before advent of christian bishops. u now use hindi alphabet to write

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    9. mr. diganta i've already provided evidences for proving my points unlike u who use such vulgar ettiquete to speak unnecessary rubbish words. an illiterate like u who cant argue with me in an appropriate way can only call me politician. by converting to christianity u have just embraced western customs but ur mentality is still that of a savage.

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    11. chutia is a dhormio baab not a tribe. it has main connection with those who were involed with giving narabali in kesaikhati guxani than in Sutan(Sadiya) area or those who settled there. It has different divisions: ahom chutiya having ahom ancestry, hindu chutiyas who have brahmin, kalita or nadial ancestry, deori chutiyas who r the rulers of chutan area n our ahom buranji never spokes about chutia kingdom but tiura which was a corruption of deori just like that of timisa being frm dimasa, miri chutiyas mising settlers in upper assam n borahi chutiyas having tangshang naga ancestry chiefly concentrated in dibrugarh area. I'm an ahom chutiya of deughoria chetia clan. N yeah whenever anybody ask my caste i say im an ahom rather chutia. 2nd thing all these classes of chutia never intermarry or interdine with each other. We ahom chutiyas perform choklong marriage, celebrate medammephi, rikhawan, umpha which we share with genuine ahoms n not with other chutiyas.

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    12. Mr. Handsome by calling our buranji puthis shit and lies u have shown your jealousy. Some historyless, illiterate creatures will definitely call our history lies. U bodos write history authenticated than us seriously? Tell me a historybook written by bodo before advent of christian evangalist britishers. Let alone history do u even had any script? Is devanagiri a bodo script? The truth is u bodos have no history at all, so u will others to be urs or distort others. We ahoms are the first such race in india who provided authenticated history writing system. G.a grierson has already praised about us 'if the assamese race has greater achivement in any field then it is none other than history which is a contribution of ahoms'.

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    13. 17th century really? lmao... what this 13th century, 14th century 15th, 17th century? can u illiterate bodos provide me accurate date instead of using these centuries, centuries... half centuries full centuries.. do u write ur DOB as 20th or 21st century? Oh, i forgot u bodos dont even know all these things before advent of CHRISTIAN EVANGALIST. U bodos r just recent immigrants frm north bengal so u dont know anything about Assam. We really learn to write history frm mughals seriously u fool provide me evidence for backing ur claim. Who told u that we learn to write buranjis ur CHRISTIAN MISSONARY DADDIES huh or some fake bodo propagandist hate mongers. First define me who is the biological father of the BASTARD JESUS then ill answer to u CHRISTIAN MISSONARIES where is INDRALOKA. N the origin of Indravanshi kshatriyas. U untouchable illiterate shudra.

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    14. Our tai community do not permit us intercaste marriages. Khamti, phakey, aiton, khamyang still marry among themselves intercaste marriage r not permissible. Read edward a gaits a history of assam where it has been written that sukapha came to assam with 9000 men, women and children alongwith two elephant and 300 horses. Before ahoms tai kleng and tai phukhou two tai tribes already existed in assam who were assimilated among ahoms. Gait and other historian who followed his example mistaken them to be moran and borahi but they r not morans were called tumisa and borahi were called khanghangyao. So mixing with moran, borahi and nagas never comes. N after adopting Indic sanatan dharma our caste endogamy became rigid.

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  35. #Barak river is not originated frm 'boro' or 'Bodo'. It is originated frm Dimasa word Brakro. Bra 'upper' kro 'stream'. N badarpur is a bengalized name for Hartikar the last Dimasa capital. Dihing, dikrong, dikhow, dikrai etc. are dimasa name not bodo. Kalidash sir ur claiming Dimasa, Koches, Ahom n Karbi names n history to be bodos.

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    1. Mr.CSGogoi all through your justifications you have been trying to say everything written in any damn buronji of is ultimate truth. Historical research findings needs to be always authincated with hard varfiable evidences. Ahom buranjis like mugal history are written by kings courtyard , and always corrupted with sycophants to exaggerate everything to falsely praise the king.the reality to day is We bodos
      dont have history like your as you say , but we exist now with pride with our custom,traditions, language . And you ahom you lost your tai dialet , traditions and fighting to be declared as distinct tribe. Neither chauvinist assamease now nor hundred attacks of ahom could finish of bodos, and we will thrive for sure in near future. Dimasa and tripri brothers in other hand with so called great history is now in the brink of extinction unless bodo intervenes constantly politically to protect them in various forum. History of today of north east has become mungerilal piped dream for identify crisis, and political tools. Whatever our past shit, today and future matters most. Proud to be bodo kachari and respect your ahom identify as well. But dont look down on us as chauvinist assamease. To day we dont bother what you say or believe.

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    2. Agreed. All these history about having a great past is useless if you can't secure your customs, language and religion for hundreds of years to come!

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  37. Whatever you are ahom, boro, dimasa or else you are still live in assam. So it is necessry to think yourself as an assamese.

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    1. We are Boros, equally we are Assamese.I never mind being called as Assamese. But it is also true that no one should be hurt when I called myself a Boro.

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    2. we tai ahoms are the chief architect of assam. and by the way r we demanding ahomland?

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    3. Ahom are nothing but politician.

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    4. Ahom history is penny as compared history of Kamarup, Chutiya , Dimasa , Koch and Tripura . All are from same stock.

      Ahom love to write their name everywhere without any reason.

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    5. Mr. Handsome r u really very handsome. U really shown ur position u illiterate why r u bringing koch, dimasa, tripuri, kamrupis here. Ahom kingdom was established in 2 december 1228 not 15th century. Verify the facts properly before u start commenting. U calling our ahom empire tiny confined only in sivasagar. Hahaha. So funny. U seem to be a northbengali mech who has settled assam only few years ago. Go ask narendra modi and mohan bhagwat who r the ahoms?

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  38. Stop it brothers. Mr. Kalidas may be wrong. But still we appreciate that he is very much interested in history of Assam.

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    1. And as per my observations boro people are the most sincere,Kind hearted,simple,and happy people...They are the sweatest of all...Others are just jealous of them and are afraid to accept the truth tat boro people are the very talented ...And the biggest fact is that boro people have heart of gold for which they always are awsome ...💖

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    2. Nd remember that we boro are also human being nd don't try to discriminate

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    3. To dear max...boro ppl have cute looks ok bt u all r jealous so u call us chinese..We look young more than u all...its u who needs makeup to hide ur wrinkles not us boro hahaha....so when u start acting in movies u will look not less than a joker with wrinkles everywhere nd not only ppl but even monkeys and aliens will feel more lucky to have more gud look face than ew..nd the movie will not b a movie but a comedy show...haha sorry if I hurt ew but ur comment deserves reply like this..

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  39. Yes we tiprasas(Tripuris) originated from bodos no doubt in it and accept it as a fact as mentioned in book " chini laibuma " in reference to the Chronicle " the rajmala/rajratnakar" which was written down on the order of Maharaja shri Govinda Manikya debbarma by then the royal preist Shi dhurlabyandra chontai . Bodosas and dimasas are our brothers.all love from Tripura keep it up, niece work

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  40. I think you should go to National Archives of India at Delhi and clear about your doubts about Kachari Kingdom which was ruled by Dimasa kings

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  41. What i see here is the topic-" Understanding the history of Bodos " is a total distortion of "Understanding the history of Dimasas "
    All the mentioned contents ie Maibang , Khaspur ,Dilao ,Haflong ,Dimapur etc are undoubtedly "Dimasa" contents
    And who is Dimasa ?
    The Royal family of all Kacharis who kept the Kachari territory intact and in the process lakhs of Dimasa soldiers died....and this is the reason why our sentiment regarding "Dont call us boros " is so deep.

    The Kachari kingdom means Dimasa kingdom and not Boro why? Because in the long run of territorial maintenance not a single boro died...it was all our soldiers...fine so dont generalise us as bodo group....we are Kachari group
    See we were never so selfish that we say Khaspur,Dimapur ,Maibang as only Dimasa kachari Kingdom...we were broad minded in that to call it Kachari kingdom so that rest of the kacharis can also be proud of Our Dimasa Kingdom
    At last we have same origin
    Being Royal Kachari
    Being Sentimental
    Juthai

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    1. Classic Definition I got to read among this entire debateand After All I Approach for........Well Mr. Khersa........We Are Kachari....

      In the same reference I would also like to share to have a look on the neighbour state Nagaland...why they able to came up and acquired Nagaland.......the Naga has different clan like Aao , Lotha , Angami , Rengma , Semaa etc. etc. having different dissimilarities of language and culture, but the main reason for their successful is only for the word called UNITY. In the same reference, I would love to voice **We are Kachari** .... and under this clan only the word Dimasa, Bodo , Sonowal , Mech , Tiwa , Thengal , Kok Borok , Dimal etc. etc. comes....we are equal...And always remember **We Can Expect Fruitful Result Only After Uniting Among Us**....... rather than this **We Can Expect The Result As Big Zero**......

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    2. our ahom buranji never mentions any kachari, bodo or mech kingdom but timisa kingdom which is corruption of dimasa and dimapur was called chetima means city of dimasa. we call deoris as tiura koches as khunchai but there never existed any bodo in our assam they are immigrants mech from north bengal and bhutia kachari of bhutan.

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    3. bodos started calling even our koch brothers as bangladeshi

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    5. But truth is that they themselves have north bengali, bhutanese and nepalese roots. Bodo term was first coined by B. G hodgson a christian missonary whom he met in north bengal and nepal not in assam. If we look they are claiming koch and dimasa history by using the term mech and kachari. but truth is that they never even have a community name before 1848. their even community name was invented by #christian evangelist. and wrote many fancy and mindborn stories for these nomadic barbarians. but alongwith that these evangelist also wrote their nomadic barbarity. b. g hodgson in his book wrote about bodos as ''the bodos and dhimals are so nomadic they dont have any village name in their let alone a kingdom'' and he also, wrote that the bodos and dhimals were drivenout in the jungles by koch kings. so this implies a nomadic group so barbaric who dont have even any village settlement and live in jungles and dont know settled farming cant be a founder of civillised states of koch and dimasa. w.w hunter even wrote in his a statistical account of assam vol. ii. chapter 1. goalpara and eastern duar. the meches and kacharis of eastern duars are barbaric dont have any settled farming, settled villages, ancestral history and any folk literature and songs and are highly nomadic. and he also wrote that the mech and kachari of eastern duars(present kokrajhar and chirang) are recent settlers. which shows that they are not aborgines.

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    6. there is a temple exist in rajbari west bengal here our king lived which is more than 500 years old ... u want to say they just made the identity or told the if boro only show bodo word were identifying ourself as bodo .. bodo word is mistake of boro word that is the fact.... west bengal to assam so many places are in boro language chiliguri jalpaiguri kochamari nalbari (nwlwbari ) hajo so many most of the names are in boro but so many boro name never written....brhamaputra were burlungbuthur ..

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    7. even boroplus boroline borosil r originated frm bodo.... why dont u claim albert einstein, galileo gallei, stephen hawking, nicholus copernicus neils bohr, or isaac newton as bodos... and also angelina jolie, bradd pitt, jackie chan, sylvester stallone as bodos...

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    8. by wearing a lions crown a donkey cant become a lion sameway by claiming others stuff with some fancy names like nungyungkung, bungchungpung it wont become urs.

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    9. where was ur bodo kings when assam was invaded by mughals? how many bodos sheded their blood by defending from mughals. do u know who was ali mech, have u read assams history

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    12. no chutiya has fought mughals. diganta please name a book and the writer of that book where its written that chutiyas fought war against mughal. mr. diganta have u ever heard about or met any ahom chutiyas. do u even know that they still writes our ahom clan titles buragohain, borgohain, chetia, bailung. do u even define me who r these ahom chutias. asshole diganta even ur grandfather han chinese got ruled mughals like changez khan, kublai khan, mongke khan. it was chaopha chaolung sukhampha elder brother sukapha who defeated kublai khan. ur grandfather ali mech helped bakhtiyar khilji to invade lower assam and tibet. but he got kicked by tibetans as well as kamrupi king viswarupa deva aka prithu. whenever any mughal invasions took place they used mech(bodo) barbarians but my forefathers kick their ass.

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    13. sorry mr. diganta i dont study history written by christian evangalist

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    14. Haha , Ahom history started only at 15th century in small region sivasagar . You stupid try to claim to be warrior.

      Even lachit was from chutiya tribe. Ahom have no history. You are just stealing glory of chutiya people.

      Off course you Tai had nothing in your forefather land. You married our people stayed here in wife's house. Pity Poor Tai-Ahom

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    21. Dimasa = royal kachari ??? It's just last phase after thengal, sonowal and everybody left you.

      You were all subject to Dimasa kings.
      We lived in kamata kingdom. We Bodos were subject to Koch king.

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    23. GREAT EXPLANATION BY BARBARIAN . But It's story of themselves

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    24. You shit try to teach me History of Kamarupa. You were uncivilized nomedic tribe that's why moved here and there . You came to our country and become civilized. Mech is just Bengali word for non-Hindu

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    25. Liar Ahom has explained about themselves just change the word Bodo with Ahom .

      #ShamelessFellow

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    27. Uncountable Bodos died fighting Khilji to Mughal . But No kukoi / sagoi died in any battle. Because kukoi / sagoi were not warrior blood.

      Kukoi / Sagoi you have no history .
      It was Chutiya and Moran Army ruled by Tai king. Who fought mughal. Initially defeated and Tai king died in sorrow. Later they took help from Kachari , Naga, Jaintia , and Koch kingdom to throw out Mughal.

      So, Kukoi , Sagoi don't have any history. There is history of Bodo , Rabha, Chutia , Dimasa etc.

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    28. Dimasa are not royal Kachari.
      Dimasa are just Dimasa Kachari .
      Dimasa kings are just ruler of Dimasa.


      Dimasa have no relation with other Kachari. Dimasa means sons of river.

      That river is Dhanashri

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    29. Chutiya is a dhormio bab not a community. Those who associate with sutan(sadiya) area either settled there or associated with giving narabali to kesaikhati. Different class of chutia have different ancestries:
      Hindu chutias‌=origanated frm brahmin, kayastha, keot, nadial caste.
      Ahom chutia‌=having ahom ancestry. Ahom clan titles like buragohain, borgohain, chetia also honorfics like gogoi, gohain r found among them.
      Borahi=naga ancestry
      Deori chutias=original rulers of sutan area, ahom buranjis spoke nitai, birpal, dharmapal as tiura kings and tiura is a corruption of deori.
      Miri chutias=misings of upper assam fall under this group.

      Lachit belong to lukhorakhun clan who came with chaolung sukapha. Lukhorakhun trace their origin to Lanfima who came with Chaopha Chaolung Sukapha. N if any chutia has connection with phukonlung chao lachit then its ahom chutias like me. Other chutias r not connected to him.

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    30. Non ahoms were part of our army its true but they were just a minority majority of our army was tai ahoms. Whenever it was a war between mughals and ahom we send mainly ahom commandos who practiced sentai(ahom martial arts). One ahom commandos can defeat 1000 mughals it has been also refered by mughal historians. Bodos were serving their mughal grandpas in northbengal as slaves when we were fighting them. Mughals invaded assam 17 times and we defeated them 16 times it was only mirjumla who defeated ahoms and that was also because of traitors among our own ahoms like baduli phukon and debera borboruah who were leading ahom army but didnt give resistance to mir jumla due to which he advanced as far as gargaon but daga juddho(guerilla warfare) tactics of atan buragohain chased out mir jumla frm assam. N we avenged the mughals for this humiliating defeat in the battle of saraighat. J

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    32. Come out of your shit posts. Dimasa , Tripura, Koch all have written their history as Our Brothers

      I understand bro. Ahom beocme civilized only after 13th century so you think entire world got civilized only then

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    33. why u bringing koch and dimasa in this ahom-bodo fight? read comments of dimasa and koches here in this blog they r calling u history thief. do u support st status of koch and their kamatapur do they support ur bodoland or ur autonomous council. do any dimasa supported ur st hill status?

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    34. Tais practice clan exogamy and race endogamy. Intercaste marriages r not permitted among our tai community. Khamti, phakey, aiton, khamyang n turung practice race endogamy same is in case with us. N after adopting sanatan dharma it became rigid. Read edward a gait history of assam where it is written sukapha came to assam with 9000 men women n children alongwith 300 horses and 2 elephants. Before ahoms kleng and phukhou resided in upper assam who were tais settled before sukapha latter on became ahoms they were not borahis and morans. Morans were called tumisa and borahis were called khanghangyao. So we didnt mixed with borahi and moran. It was also gait who mistaken them to be borahi and moran and other historian followed his example.

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    35. The whole world know bodos r history thief and manipulators. Did u watch tango charlie movie u will understand what the world thinks about u bodos

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    36. Mr Gogoi, why are spreading such fake propaganda everywhere?? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex??😅😅

      1. The word Chutia is itself present in Deori-Chutia language which stands for "inhabitants living near pure water(Brahmaputra)". Chu means pure and Ti/Di means water while ya stands for Inhabitants similar to Dibongia and Tengaponiya. Besides this, the tribe is also mentioned in the book Har-Gauri Samvad written by the court poet of Kamata king Durlabhnarayan Hemsaraswati in the 14th century.

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  42. All the people here seems to be retarded. Why are you all shouting such a way. Whatever the history was it's of no use today. As many places mentioned above belongs to Bangladesh or W. Bengal. Currently the Bangladeshi Mia's are lords in these places. Similar to Pakistan once part of india. So instead of shouting here we should try to retain the rest lands which is still in our hand. Otherwise we will be nowhere. Just like we lost these places

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  43. Well.. Bodo word means Kacharis . Bodo word was coined by S Endle to describe the whole Kacharis. Boro, Dimasa, Tripuris,Sonowal etc etc all are Kacharis I.e. Bodos.

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    1. We The Kaachari Have Been Existing Before Coining by S.Endle.....We Should not depend on other....

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    2. KACHARI IS A SYLTETI BENGALI WORD WHICH THEY USED FOR BARAK VALLEY BRITISH CHRISTIAN MISSONARIES USED THAT FAKE WORD ON TIMISA OR DIMARAJI OR DIMASA KINGDOM. SO THAT SOME BHUTANESE OR NORTH BENGALI COULD ASSERT THEIR CLAIM

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    3. There was four kingdoms . Chutiya , Kachari , Koch, Tripuri

      Today's Boro are from Mostly from Koch Kingdom and Some are from Dimapur and from war zone. Boundary between 3 kingdoms.

      Kamarupa was united kingdom for Koch, Kachari, Chutiya, Tripura

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    4. Kamrupi kings were nagara brahmins not bodos. Xuan zang called bhaskar varman a brahmin and kamrupi dynasties like salasthamba and pala also called themselves in their kamrupi inscriptions as brahmins. This fact is already verified by scholars like pandit nagendranath basu and k.l boruah. According to k.l boruah bhaskar varman ruled extended only frm karatoya to kolong kopilli valley in nowgong. So kamrupa was mainly lower assam later on included central assam. Kamrupi kings never ruled whole assam and half of northeast like ahoms.

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    5. Bodos can claim only koch n dimasa history to be theirs as they dont have one?

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    6. Ahom don't have any history because kings were Tai , Army were Bodos. All #Sangramjit were slaves , son of prostitutes , Pattaya culture

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    7. We understand your game Slave. You son of bitch play the game of identical contraction. Kamarupa kings were Koches and Dimasas . Now reply to this #Slave

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    8. We don't need to claim. Our history is written in Karnataka school book and NCERT book

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    9. u claim we dont have any history because we r tai... hahaha... n what's pattaya culture. first u claimed ahoms were kings bodos were his servants. then how a king become slave? hahaha. u bodos r our slave ur haguraram mohalibari was a slave for 15 years of tarun gogoi. he licked t gogoi ass during congress regime.

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    10. read social history of kamrupa vol. 1 by pandit nagendranath vasu where bhaskar varmans and pala, salasthambas brahmin heritage is clarified. even kamrupa inscription call them brahmins. they r frm nagara brahmin heritage presentday kamrupi brahmins some nagara brahmins who took agriculture become kalitas.

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    11. i was a cbse student n i studied ncert history books i never found any bodo history. really mughals(mainlanders) rewarded bodos for their loyalty towards them by including in ncert? please name which class book mentions bodo cl-6, 7 or 8 n the chapter name.

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    12. Lastly , Learn meaning of Basumatari . All your doubts will be cleared.

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    13. mr. handsome u need to show urself to a pscychatrist ur mental condition is very critical bro. its hard to digest the truth isnt it that u bodos r historyless person. i have provided sources for proving my statement. tell me have u ever read nagendranath basu, k.l boruahs monographs they r highly qualified scholars, academics and historians and also xuan zangs si yu ki. no u didnt cuz whatever u comment r frm the hate literature against us by bodo fanatics. i have commented by verifying the facts properly and researching them unlike u wrote like a fanatic. by looking at u it reminds me a what lord buddha says ''never argue with a lier, cuz they will believe their lies rather than accepting the truth''. it really suits some fanatics and hate spewing loosers like you.

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  44. The word bodo was first used by B. H. Hodgson in 1849 to denote a group of languages. He took the word bodo from Meches of darjeeling district in 1846 while writing about them. And the word Kachari was first given by S. Endle to denote tribes like Dimasa, Bodo(boro), Rabha, Tripura tribes(Debbarmas, Reangs, Jamatia), Garo and so on.

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  45. And about Kachari Kingdom which was ruled by Dimasa not by Bodo(Boro). Because before the establishment of Kachari Kingdom at Dimapur the Dimasa and Bodo(Boro) were separated from each other while crossing Brahmaputra river, those who crossed the river were known as Dimasa(children of big river), as u can see till now also the population of Bodo(boro) are more at above the Brahmaputra river and the Dimasa are at below Brahmaputra river present day Dimapur, Dima hasao, Hojai, Lanka and Cachar. After they got separated the Dimasa people established their kingdom at Dimapur, then they shifted to Maibang then at Khaspur

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  46. In our history we had one and only kachari kingdom. Separation of our tribes into Bodos, Dimasas, Rabhas, Koches, Kok Borok,etc. happened only after the decline of the Kachari kingdom due to repeated invasion by the Ahoms. Our kings had to submit to the Ahom ruling monarchy and became subordinate rulers that strengthened the Ahoms. This indicates that the Bodos, dimasas, Rabhas and so on have originated the kachari kingdom so all of us should be termed Kacharis instead of Bodos. The tribes other than Bodos can be termed as Bodos no doubt but only on the basis of linguistic criteria..like the bodo-speaking communities. Ethnically they cannot be termed as Bodos because they have their own identity. So the most preferable term is the 'Kacharis' to denote them including Bodos. Let us go to other states like Nagaland where there are many tribes such as Ao,Angami,Lotha,Sema,Konyak,etc...n all of them are Nagas, so they are termed as Ao-Naga, Angami-Naga, Konyak-Naga and so on. Likewise we should be termed as Bodo-Kachari,Dimasa-Kachari,Rabha-Kachari n bla bla bla...

    Regarding the 'crossing of the river' which is a folk tale shared by all of our tribes, I state that this is just one possible source... In order to better understand our history we can't simply rely on one source. We have to seek for alternative sources too. So we can't give a 100% guarantee that the Bodos or the Dimasas were leading the Kachari Kingdom. Or else it will create a lot of ethnocentrism (belief that one's culture is superior to that of others) among us.

    From Onjalu Basumatary,
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    1. "Separation happened only after decline of Kachari kingdom"- i would like to disagree herein. Although when separation took place is shrouded in mystery. When Kachari kingdom was in extant, the Ahom chronicles distinctly mentioned the kachari ruler as "Timisa" which insinuates of Dimasas then. So the identity of Dimasa is not recent or after the decline of Kachari Kingdom.
      Secondly epigraphical records(one stone slab in Maibang) unequivocally has Dimasa clan Hasnusa/Hachengsa inscribed on it with along with King's name.
      Lastly colonial papers in archives delhi is a surviving testimony of clan system of Dimasas in kachari kingdom at Cachar. It states about relection of king by 40 clans(sengphong), after death of Govinda ch Hasnu,which is Dimasa clan system(sengphong).

      From Chiranjeev Nunisa(Bonnie Nunisa)
      M.A. History,University of Delhi.

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    2. Classic Definition.......Well Mr. Angel Basumatary ........We Are Kachari.... Which means the word called *UNITY*

      In the same reference, I also admired the example portrayed from your end indicating Naga Community Nagaland...why they able to came up and acquired Nagaland.......after being the Naga has different clan like Aao , Lotha , Angami , Rengma , Semaa etc. etc. having different dissimilarities of language and culture, but the main reason for their successful is only for the word called UNITY connotes Kachari . In the same reference, I would love to arise a voice **We are Kachari** .... and under this clan only the word Dimasa, Bodo , Sonowal , Mech , Tiwa , Thengal , Kok Borok , Dimal etc. etc. comes....which shows we are equal...And always remember **We Can Expect Fruitful Result Only After Uniting Among Us**....... rather than this **We Can Expect The Result As Big Zero**......

      Lastly,base on Logic, I would say- Kachari Kingdom was thronedand ruled by Dimasa King only for the logic reason is the Capital of Kachari Kingdom is called DIMAPUR....and there are many names of King & his powerful senapati with the place which are named after Dimasa's surname......but unfortunately & unhopefully we lost our Kingdom because of such type of going on altercation/dissention provoked by some outsider in among us to weaker our strength. We felt in prey (misundersting and instigation)from rebel group who were always tried to victory on us. So, till today we could not arise. We are still underway to rise....
      Jai Ho Kachari .....

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    3. You are wrong. There was four kingdoms . Chutiya , Kachari , Koch, Tripuri

      Today's Boro are from Mostly from Koch Kingdom and Some are from Dimapur and from war zone. Boundary between 3 kingdoms.

      Kamarupa was united kingdom for Koch, Kachari, Chutiya, Tripura

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    4. Bonnie Nunisa . Neither River crossing is right nor we are divided later.
      Dimasa were already in south since kamarupa rule. When Pala declined in north then Chutiya , Dimasa declared independence and ruled respective kingdoms.

      There were some migration during myan invasion from here and there. Don't know exactly what happened .

      Kachari history belong to Thengal , Sonowal, Barman , Dimasa , Hojai . Best of luck

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  47. Mr. Kalidas Sir, did you studied Mahabharata, Puranas, Tantras ? Where's writte that Bodo, Rabha, Dimasa, Garo, Lulungs were Mlechhas, Danvas andvAsuras, I would like to know.
    And Boros are nothing to do in Northern India.

    BARAK: How "Barak" is derived from "Boro" word, if "Bara" means "Boro" then in "Barak" what does meant to you last letter "K". And if "Barak" means "Man" then it is so much clear word "Bara" is not "Boro".

    DINAJPUR: If Di = River or Water, Na = Fish, Pur = Land or Place, then where's "J" gone in DINAJPUR ? And how could it became cultivation instead of Land, don't know Boro have or haven't own word for cultivation.

    BADARPUR : How does different name for same community if "Bara" means "Bodo" then how could it be "Bada" means also "Bodo" and where's "R" gone in "Badarpur" ?

    DIMAPUR: According to your article Kacharis ruled in Dimapur up to 1536. May you say any king's full name who had Boro surnames. I hope someone has explained very well meaning of "Maibang".

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    HAFLONG: Someone explained very well

    Remaining... I would like to talk about it later on

    Dwi/ Doi = water or river, I'd say "Di" has different meaning and "Di" is "Di" not Dwi or Doi and you said place name ending with "pur" related to Boro word "land or place" what about Kanpur, Nagpur, Nagpur, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Firozpur, Jabalpur, Jamsedpur seems like Bodo reign or dominated entire India, what you think Mr. Kalidas ?

    SINDHU : Sindhu is Sanskrit word "large body of water, sea, ocean.

    Mr. Kalidas Sir, how could you rely on Edwar Gaid, S. Endle, Edward Gait's book. If Boros have reigned North and Norther Eastern India why don't have artificts recovery, ancient literature that proves Boros had reigned in ancient time even no legendry evidence. Boro and Dimasa are same that not true; unfortunately you said same origin, if you said Chines and Japanese are same; would it be accepltabe ? Have scientists decoded DNA of Boros till now ? No artifacts, no ancient text, no monuments, even no king's name have been found. So, sorry to say that is not acceptable. In north America aboriginal's like Astic, Gaurani, Apache etc community's artifacts still now can be seen and lots of physical evidence available and Bodo reigned noryh and north eastern India that means Boros has rich history then at least Boro should have palace, worship places etc. That books is not enough, we talk on facts not just in myth. If the name started with "B and "K" that doesn mean B for Boro and K for Kachari.

    Making a History with no evidence isn't good for generations. It would be better if you provide correct information and knowledge to Boro generations and all they have right to know who they really are.
    You never explain Boro king's name which exactly written in slab of stone or old books. And How you say so easily Kirat are Kachari, and Boros are Kirat, please clarify abou Kirat with evidence Sir.

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    1. Hey u (anonymous) stop conversation...u have no idea about Linguistic..this article is base on language and linguistic (Assam History related)...Kalidash Brahma is right (authentic)...whatever he wtote/quoted..these are secondary sources...not primary ...without knowing about linguistuc survey of india vol. I II III 1903 no body can debate on this article...plz read/follow classification of Sino-Tibetan labguage family. Written by Robert Shafer & G.A Grierson and SK. Chatterjee so on ...u will get what are the branches & generic terms of Bodo (Sino-Tibetan language family).....most of the scholars quoted BODO & Dimasa (so on) are belongs same language family ...they have same linguistic affinities/features...u can visit to Gauhati University professor(s) S.N Gosswami, U.R. Hakacham...they studied deeply on mention above..

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    2. History is always debatable. Do you think only you lived in kachari kingdom ? can't be there any other people? Here nobody claiming one another history. Here only relationship are being established

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  48. If you proud to say yourself as Dimasa,Rabha,Garo,Mech,Tipras,Sonowal, Thengal,Lalung etc... Are you ready for move to re-establish the "KOCHARI KINGDOM" or "KOCHARILAND" in the North East India as BODOLAND by bodos(boros)...? If no, then everyone please stop your debating. Continuing argument on own history never solve your community's social problems, economical problems, educational problems, political problems and development. Feel goodwill and be unity ...

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  49. I would like to clear some misconceptions here.

    1. First of all neither Kachari nor Bodo can be used as an umbrella term to represent the group of Tibeto-burmans/Kiratas who lived in ancient Kamrup. Bodo is a name of a single tribe which lived in the Duars of Western Assam and were known as Mech in Assam. Mech is a derogatory word derived from Mlechha and Bodo was the term given by Bhutias to the Mech people. If one considers Bodo to be the people migrating from Bod/Tibet, only then can it be used as an umbrella term. On the other hand, Kachari term was also something used in a mocking sense by early Aryan immigrants. It was first written by Shankardeva as Kirata-Kachari which included all tribes like Bodo, Dimasa, Chutia+Deori, Rabha, Tiwa, Sonowal, Moran, etc. He clearly mentioned Miris, Mikirs/Karbis as separate groups. Kachari word was first used by Dimasa kings only in the year 1736 after the kings came under the influence of Brahmins. Groups like Morans, Deoris, Chutias, although belonged to the same group never called themselves Kacharis only for this particular reason. So, I feel the better term to use would be Kamrupa Kiratas instead.

    2. Secondly,there were two routes of migration of Kiratas from Tibet to Northeast India. One was through the passes along Tista and Kosi rivers and the other through Subansiri in Arunachal Pradesh. The first group consisted of Bodos, Dimasas, Sonowals, Thengals, Rabhas, Koch, Garo, etc. while the second group consisted of Chutias,Morans, Deoris and Tiwas. It may be taken into consideration that the term Kachari was originally derived from the Kosi river due to which the groups belonging to the first category took up the term "Kachari" while the second group didn't. The people from the first group settled in Western Assam initially from where later branches migrated as far as the banks of Dikhou in the 10th-11th century. The ones who stayed back are Bodos/Mech, Koch, Rabhas, Garos while the ones that migrated comprised of Dimasas, Sonowals and Thengals. The people from the second group originally scattered all over Upper Assam and lived between the Dikarai and Dikhou river. The Deoris have a folklore where they mention Sotai hills near Tezpur to be the first place where they settled after migrating to Northeast India. Later these people spread all over the districts of Upper Assam. I can be mentioned that the first group was actually named as a single tribe called Chutia meaning "cultivators of fertile lands" from where the other tribes like Deori, Moran and Tiwa split in different times of history. Morans were originally a branch of Buruk clan of Chutias while Deoris were the priests of Chutias. Tiwas migrated somewhere in the ancient times and their language is very similar to the Deori-Chutia language.

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    1. in xuan zangs siyuki bhaskara varmana was called brahmin. and pala emperors call themselves mleccha brahmins. pandit nagendranath basu in his a social history of kamrupa has already clarified pala, salasthamba and varmana to be brahmins. they belonged to nagar brahmin tribe and brahmins of nidhanpur, hayungthal, umachal, dubi and other kamrupa inscriptions bore pala, varmana, vasu, deva, saha surnames. which clarifies their nagar brahmin heritage. and our gurujona srimonto xonkordeb destroyed casteism, child marriage, dowry from assam he enriched assamese culture by nat, bhaona, namghoxa, xatriya nritya, ujapali which gave us international recognition. and it was because of gurujona srimanta sankardev we dont have any rigid and racist caste system in assam unlike other parts of india.

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    4. Brahmin xokole dux koribo re . Ahome Brahmin xokolok mlechcha buli koi . Brahmin henu tribe ahomor babe. Hahi hahi pet bixal

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  51. After going through all the comments, I would like say that Dimasa-Kacharis are the sub section of the Bodos. Due to Ahom-Kachari (Dimasa)conflict in the 13th-15th century, the Kacharis had to shift their capital base from Sadiya to Dimapur, then to Maibong and at last Khaspur. If we go through the historical facts, those who settled down in the Brahmaputra valley, regarded as Kacharis while those shifted towards the Barak valley or generally North Cachar hills, known as Dimasa. It was Dimasa-Kachari who established their kingdom at Cachar.

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  55. Yeah ahom buranjis r lies the whole world history is a lie as they dont mention about bodos. Read b.g hodgson monograph on u bodos what he wrote, he was the one who even gave u a community name who r today called bodos. 'the bodos and dhimals r so nomadic let alone a kingdom they have a name for a village in their language'. That was the condition of bodos in 1840. Those bodos who lived in jungles of north bengal, nepal, and bhutan never even had a village of their own n dont even know how to cultivate r claiming a civillisation. Lol. No buranjis speak about tais being barbarians. We tai people, austronesian and austro asiatics r the first rice cultivators of the world. We tais spreaded out out of china as an expansion of rice farming since 650 bc. Just like our austro asiatic cousins did before us 8000 years ago. We ahoms introduced settled farming, stitching of clothes, muga silk, bell metal and brass metal utensils. Majority of mainlanders think northeast is a land of naked tribals but its not true when it comes to tai ahoms. We ahoms wore stitched clothes of our and covered our entire body when most of our counterparts let alone wearing clothes they dont even dream of wearing ganjee, jangia or bra panties. No historian speaks about us being barbarians, but i can provide names of a number of ethnographist, historians, anthropologist and scholars who called u barbarians.

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  57. i am fascinated by India and all the names said here and everywhere . My favourite country is India and is the world´s bestest , greatest, longest, largest, biggest, highest ,tallest, greatest , strongest , most superpowerfull on whole planet Earth . People should not fight all of you are right so much long and So SO SO Great is India Geography and History the most ancient Nation on whole Planet Earth .This is the Supercontinent of Good and Usefull Records and is called Bharat Hindustan Shindhu Rashtra Aryabharta Aryavarta Jambudvip India and so many other names like Bharatavarsha Veerat Bharatamandalay and Mahabharata or Mahabharat .

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  58. I know about 360 and much more India states even in North Eastern and if you listen to them or read / see them you will be amazed and you will wonder from where they came . Great Civilization Culture Economy Spatial Mega Ultra Hyper Superpower is Bharat or Índia or Hindusthan The Most Modern even when is the most ancient and human being and everything and everyone´s origin/creed I Truly Love Bharat Eternally and Purely !!!!!!!!!!. JAI HIND !!!JAI HIND !!JAYA HIND!! JAY HIND !!JAI HIND !!!!!BHARAT MATA KI JAI!!!!

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  59. No other country does have so much good usefull records as Bharat and next is Zhonghua or Zongguo or China !!!!!!

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  60. I do not want to fight or discuss with people only dialogue and this is nice article about culture , knowledge and very precious usefull , good ,valuable , interesting and important information . Do not fight please and be friends discourse compassion conversation dialogue not discussion debate in this forum symposium essay chronicles Each one with his/her knowledge and opinion everyone important when there is respect , education and dialogue. Say stuff in a sympathetic way. LOVE YOU ALL PEOPLE OF INDIA OR BHARAT MY GREAT SECRET LOVE ALONG WITH MY PARENTS BROS/SISTERS FAMILY AND CULTURE GEOGRAPHY HISTORY !!!!!!

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  61. Koti mi koti si koti mi Sina bami basi bami sina

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  62. Firstly, the dimasas were already a seperate community by the establishment of kingdom in Dimapur.

    Secondly, All the kings of kachari kingdom belong to either Hasnusa or Thaosensa, then how is it a bodo kingdom (except for two manipuri king)

    Thirdly You are shamelessly using Bodo as the Umbrella term for the kacharis infact as per the records 'boro'term was 1st used by British but the irony is the dimasa kachari kingdom was already established before british arrival.

    Fortly, the warriors (sengyas) such as Demalik Kemprai, Tularam thaosen were all Dimasa.

    Fiftly, there is not a single incident that link the present boros with the kingdom (for e.g. there was never a senapati whose surname or clan was basumutary).

    Sixtly, Changing the names of Dimasa warrior and Kings for inheriting someone else's history is a bad practice.

    Seventhly, Just because we came from same lineage doesn't mean we share the same history.

    Lastly, the only umbrella term to be used for the kingdom is Kachari,though the kings were Dimasa.


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  63. read all the comments. some observations-
    1. all non-ahom tribes mentioned here have more than 1 origin, maybe 2 or more and have to grouped in different umbrellas.
    2. i have read in 'bor axom', 1st chapter of my school assamese book that ahoms came from the east of NE India and to legitimize themselves as true rulers of Assam(then included meghalaya, arunachal, etc), they called in hindu priests from bengal and converted.
    3. people in NE India were divided even before the ahoms came. wikipedia on narakasura(who came after ghatotkach) will tell you that after narakasura's dynasty, different parties claimed the throne and called themselves descendants of narakasur to legitimize their reign.
    4. if you go by the hindu texts and scriptures, kiratas were dominant in eastern india in the era of mahabharata. we have great connection to the indian history and people. ahoms were nowhere in the scene.
    5. also from that 'bor axom' chapter, an axom king had gathered a large army from different tribes of assam on the banks of brahmaputra to attack 'bongo dekh'(after lachit ofcourse). when they were camping, the king died suddenly and the infighting among his sons stopped the campaign. since then all axomiyas have given up fighting the 'bong dekh' to such an extent that 'bong dekh' is attacking us.
    truth be told, the assamese people have no problem with muslims (whose real face they don't know or refuse to accept), their problem is with bengalis.
    6. we are indeed very very divided. it is imperative that infighting among the different tribes must stop (the Nagaland example mentioned in the comments is apt). be wary(not hateful) of the axomiyas, be very strict with the muslims(no, not advocating genocide, just don't go easy on their whim) and stay away from christian missionaries.

    It is true we do not have a written history, but people who knew how to write did write about us. our kings were on both sides of the kurukshetra.

    just like atoms make molecules that make cells and which in turn makes the organs and yet each have their own function in their own place we should strive to be one. of course sometimes cancer may develop(not targeting any particular community here), in which case the cancer must be destroyed. should time come let there also be a war(like the pandavas and kauravas).

    speaking to bodos, no, not the dimasas, not the karbis or sonowals, i mean only those who claim themselves to be bodos and/or speak the bodo language, uplift yourselves, educate yourselves and integrate yourselves with the indian society so much that the mainlanders proudly call us fellow hindus(which is, by the way not a religion but sanatan dharma; also another meaning-people of indian subcontinent) even if we worship bathou bwrai or do hom yagya. contribute to indian science, arts and economy and once again claim your rightful place in the pages of bharat as leaders in different fields of society.


    Ishra ki pukaar h, Bhaagavad ka saar h, k yuddh hi veer ka pramaan h.

    finally, remember dwimalu's curse and let's conspire silently to break it.

    jwi boro harini, jwi bharat.

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  64. @Chao Sangramjit Gogoi Your rant against the Bodos (I believe you mean the Boro-Kacharis) is really interesting. Nevertheless, it makes me all the more proud to belong to the Boro-Kachari community. Written history or no history (as you claim), we are a community that has preserved its folklore, culture, language and even the religion (Bathouism is still pracriced by a huge chunk of the community) through the tradition of orally handing it down from one generation to another. While you accuse us of stealing history of others, it won't be wrong to say that the Ahoms themselves thrived on an invaded land, an adopted language and an adopted religion. I wonder how different these are from stealing.The very language you claim as your mother tongue was not even your forfather's who invaded the land. I am glad our forefathers taught us to preserve ours.

    In modern times we are an emerging ethnic entity. We are making history even as we are debating here. We have run the strongest ethnic and political movement in lower Assam. It has helped us assert our political rights and self determination. The Bodo language as spoken by the Boro-Kachari people today is recognized and is included in the 8th schedule of the Indian constitution. It's the 3rd indigenous language from the entire North-East after Assamese and Meiteilon (Manipuri) to have made this mark.

    Now coming to Ali Mech. He was a 13th century tribal chieftain from current day North Bengal and a citizen of the Kamata Kingdom. He was converted when he came in contact with Bakhtiyar Khilji. As very little is known about him, it is wrong to assume that he represented or commanded the entire Mech/Boro-Kacharis of his time. In current times, there is no trace of Islam practiced by the Boros and there is no muslim that speaks Bodo as a mother tongue. So, it is not wrong to assume that he may have been a social outcast. It's also possible that only his family pledged allegiance to the invading mughals. I observed that you took a few names of Ahoms, who you said, were traitors. So, Ali Mech was no different. The desi muslims are believed to be his decendants. The Boro-Kacharis don't even consider him as a historical figure. It's the same how Ahoms don't consider honoring or erecting erecting statues of Momai Tamuly.

    I personally believe the koches are ethnically the same as the Boro Kacharis and they may have evolved linguistically, custom-wise and religion-wise due to inter-marriages with other ethnic groups.

    If ever another separate state is carved out of Assam, it could very well be done by the Boro-Kacharis, as it's the only capable and determined group.

    We understand that Assam has its own interest of keeping its political geography intact. Creating a dispute between the Boros and Koches (I think they have renamed themselves as Koch-Rajbanshis) ensures it for now to some extent. We don't know how this will shape up in the future. Maybe instead of one, two different states will be carved out someday!

    Other means adopted are spreading false propaganda, humiliating the Boros and trying to make them look like they were nobody since time immemorial by a few agents of the chauvinistic elements.

    I agree that very little is known about the Boro-Kachari rulers and prominent personalities from the Boro community. RhereThat's because very little literary works in the Bodo language are read and translated by others.

    A few notable personalities from the North-east India have recently been mentioned in history books of India. It's just a matter of time and people will soon read about prominent Boro-Kachari personalities who made a mark in medieval history. The Bodo Sahitya Sabha is working on it.

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